CCM: I think back through your catalog and there are plenty of “love your neighbor” themes, but nothing quite like on these two records. You’ve alluded to your frustrations with social media and how our culture has trouble communicating with one another, but I don’t know that I’ve heard quite so many potent unity themes in your records before now.
I think we’re losing something. People don’t talk anymore, and I feel like we’re lacking community because everybody just does this all day. [Motioning texting on his phone.] When you’re texting somebody that’s in the next room, it’s pretty unbelievable.

CCM: We’ve taken the face off of conversation.
We have.

CCM: And so we lack dialogue, right? I think about Facebook or Twitter—any of that—it’s me saying what I need to say without having to regard who’s on the other side of what I’m saying.
MWS: Exactly, exactly.

CCM: So with this drive towards unity … we are a divided society. How do we facilitate these hard conversations?
MWS: I think the Church should be at the very front of [facilitating conversations]. I know they sound different, but these two records hold together on some level, and the unity thing is a big part of that. Again, I’m trying not to be judgmental and I’m trying not to point the finger, but I just feel like I’m not sure we’ve got it right.


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Andrew Greer

Andrew Greer is a multiple Dove Award-nominated singer/songwriter, respected author, and co-creator of the innovative Hymns for Hunger tour with Cindy Morgan, raising awareness and resources for hunger relief organizations in hundreds of cities across the country. On tour, Andrew has shared the stage with folks like Amy Grant, Brandon Heath and Andrew Peterson. His songs have been recorded by artists like Jaci Velasquez, Seth & Nirva and Nic Gonzales (of Salvador). And his first book – Transcending Mysteries – co-authored with Ginny Owens, was published by Thomas Nelson in 2015. Andrew is also host of CCM Magazine’s “Features on Film” series, featuring one-on-one conversations with some of music’s biggest artists. For more information visit: or

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